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44: Thank you, ChatGPT

• Tajuana Paige & Sheree Paige-Barber • Episode 44

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Join us as we explore astrology and how our zodiac signs (Libra and Gemini) illuminate their personalities, behaviors, and challenges in surprisingly accurate ways.

• October Libra traits include being charming, romantic, diplomatic, and having an eye for aesthetics, along with challenges like people-pleasing and avoiding conflict
• May Gemini characteristics reveal duality, adaptability, and quick-wittedness, with tendencies toward inconsistency and overthinking
• Understanding zodiac traits can help identify patterns in how we approach relationships, parenting, and personal growth
• ChatGPT provides insightful affirmations for each sign that speak to their core struggles and needs
• We both discover how our creative expressions align with our zodiac traits, from writing and home design to music and artistic outlets
• Goal-setting approaches differ by sign - Libras fear failure while Geminis struggle with getting started
• The value of astrology lies not in predicting the future but in better understanding ourselves in the present

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

Hi guys, welcome to turn the page. Podcast.

Speaker 1:

This is co-host to wanna. This is your other co-host, sheree. Um, you probably just heard some swishing or some ice. We're sitting here together in person, I'm drinking iced coffee and we're sitting at my kitchen table recording a stellar episode for y'all. We have a few episodes lined up today that we are going to be recording. Yes, it's content day it is, that's actually a good way to put it. Then we're gonna go to pool and go to lunch and talk more business stuff.

Speaker 2:

But I like your nails oh, thanks, that's a whole story you can pull off the almond shape. I don't think I can. She made them a little sharper than I would like. They kind of look like daggers.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yeah, but that's a whole thing so it's giving fall colors and it's july. Can we talk about that? Because it.

Speaker 2:

Let me just get into it, because I ended early yesterday and made a nail appointment but my nail lady's out of town, oh so I had to schedule with someone I don't know that's blessed for me.

Speaker 1:

I don't do that I know I do it for the pedicure, but not the nails.

Speaker 2:

Same my guy but they're grown out. They were grown out and we have the concert next weekend. I'm like I need to like get it together. So she was 30 minutes late, didn't even acknowledge it when she walked over to me 30 minutes late. She was very like getting to the my appointment was at 3 45 and she was working on someone until 4 15 and wasn't even like I'm so sorry no one like came to check on me.

Speaker 1:

They just like gave me the little color book to look through and usually go to yeah, I love that place I know, but I I it's something about thursdays in the summer because I think everyone's either prepping for vacation.

Speaker 2:

They have like a wedding or something coming up. It is packed, note to self, stick to my wednesdays. She was 30 minutes late. She asked me my color five separate times because she was not listening. I understand like language barriers, but like she would like go come back over and be like what was the number? Again then go come back over and be like wait, what was the number? I'm like do I need to walk with you with the color book?

Speaker 1:

my guy writes it down like on his hand do something like she just was not listening.

Speaker 2:

And then, when she was drilling my nails, she got the little piece. Like it hit me in the face three separate times and once before a different person there with my glasses got something in my eye. So I'm like, as soon as she took the foils off, I'm like rage texting sarah, because sarah goes there too and she we have the same nail girl.

Speaker 2:

So it's like all the way over there yeah, like when she's at her in-laws she'll come, or like, yeah, um, I was like our girl's not here and I'm very like. I was like I'm pissed and I listed everything and I said update. I mean she killed it. Like I love my nails, but that was very annoying and so that was my story about the earbuds, because normally I don't have them in because I like to talk to my nail girl.

Speaker 1:

But this girl is like, sorry, like I will be watching housewives because oh, okay, so we can talk about that, not the housewives, but I mean, we'll talk about that, but that's what it's about. We can talk about our earbuds, our airpods. I only wear them in the house or like when I'm working out. I don't wear them like out in the store, like I see people with like one and I'm like who are you talking to and why are you doing this? Like having sound in one ear bothers me. I like so much semester symmetry. Yeah, I like things to be the same. I wear them in the house, like when I'm working or like if I have them in. I don't want to like if the kids are playing, like I'm trying to get worked out. I have like music playing.

Speaker 2:

I just I don't wear them like out in public settings unless I'm like working out I don't either, just because, like I was saying earlier, like they slide out of my ear and I'm always having to fix them such small ears, yeah, so it either ends a call or like pauses what I'm listening to. It's annoying, so I only really wear them at home too, but I brought them with me because I knew I wasn't gonna be with my normal nail nail person.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, um, I smart of you. Yeah, okay, that's okay. So that was the first time, and maybe last time, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Lesson learned well, I already scheduled my next appointment with my regular girl because, yeah, I cannot okay, um, so yeah okay, guys, this was the appetizer.

Speaker 1:

Let's get to the entree.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So, rose butthorn. My rose is my nails.

Speaker 1:

Yes, they're fierce.

Speaker 2:

Thanks, I love them. Yeah, my bud Husband and I both having Fridays off has been lovely.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yes, Last week he got like yard has been lovely. Oh, yes, um, last week he got like yard work done, um, and then I was able to eat lunch and watch a show as my little break, so, yeah, and then I'm able to do this and then go home and give him a break. So that's been cool. Um, my thorn, I don't know. I mean, I don't know you want to come back to it. We'll just say, yeah, okay, it's probably just my nail story, because I can't think of one no, I mean that, if that's what it is, that's what it is.

Speaker 1:

Um, my rose is that we get to do I love how you named it content day today, and I'm happy about that. Um, my goal is to get to the port least once by myself in the summer, and I'm doing that today, so I'm having to play lifeguard for my children and my niece. That'll be tomorrow.

Speaker 1:

Anyway today we'll be enjoying this. My bud is that I'm constantly or more actively so recently working on myself and it's not fun and just going back in time in my mind like, oh okay, you did this. Because of this Am I thorn Ladies PMS.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

I see my lady doctor. Next week we're going to have to have a conversation because this is getting worse, so that's also for another episode, but we'll put the pen in that, yeah, but today we're talking about horoscopes so I was gonna say, when you said you like symmetry, I was like that's the libra in.

Speaker 1:

You like the balance yeah, the scales yeah that's perfect, because just a little buffer as well, or a little disclaimer. We're not experts. We use chat gpt. Yeah, um, if you like to look up experts for astrology, please do so, but we are not experts. We are not experts, but here we go by any means by any means.

Speaker 1:

Okay, we actually there were experts on each other but yeah, um, on this, but we got. So what kind of got me into this was? Um, I think it was. Oh, I listened to jay's jetty podcast with our girl, lizzo. Yes, and she was talking about how she took like I think she took last year off or maybe 2022 off. She, she was silent, we didn't see much of her, but she was doing it because she was just trying to help himself, like healing and everything. But she touched on astrology and like the different houses and how she's like really into them. Like what is she talking about?

Speaker 1:

I looked it up and I was like, okay, and then my co-worker I forgot she had a horoscope book and she brought it in. I asked her to bring it in and she did our readings the other day and I was like this is what Lizzo was talking about and how Lizzo, everything was like spot on what she was talking about in her life and I was just like I kept going back to that podcast episode, the Jay Shetty one with her, and I was like, okay, this is amazing. But I might be like slightly into this now, not really sure. But also, side note I'm not into psychics or having my palms read. I'm not into psychics or having my palms read. I'm not into that. But I am into astrology. I've always read my. Why am I screaming? I always read my horoscope, like every night in high school.

Speaker 1:

That age is me I started doing it again on my smartphone. People can call it smartphone, it's just a phone, it's a phone. But now I'm into it again and I forgot I had chat to PT and she uses it for apparently everything and she blew my mind when she told me yeah, she uses it for everything. I was like, wait what?

Speaker 2:

She's my best friend.

Speaker 1:

So now I start going into it and just do a small introduction. I am an October Libra and I say the month specifically because you know each sign starts at the end of one month and goes through to the middle of the next month. I just need to specify that because I think that also has to do with what traits you are too, but I specifically put in October Libra.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I need you to get the CoStar app. Maybe if you want to go ahead and get it. Do you guys know that I'm just using chat gbt because I follow, yeah, like sarah taylor, payton, jacare, michelle, you can follow your friends and it breaks it down, yeah give me your trust well, you have to download it okay.

Speaker 1:

Well, I'm gonna read my thing now um, okay, go ahead okay, guys, so we chat jbt this october libra woman.

Speaker 1:

We are talking about the good traits and I put challenging traits. They're not bad, they're just challenging, okay. And all of these things have made sense to me because I have known this stuff about libra before. But the older I get and the more I'm into like learning about myself, it all makes sense. So my core traits are charming and social, I'm easy to talk to and I thrive in social situations and I have heard that and it was so sweet. My coworkers were like you make people feel so welcome and I was like really, that's nice.

Speaker 1:

And I don't know. I just I've always thought I was annoying with asking questions. I'm like a made-up investigative journalist, self-proclaimed so not actually. Yeah, but that's what I do and some people enjoyed it, although most people do but I just, it's just. I ask questions but I get, I shut down people asking questions anyway. Um, romantic and idolistic. I believe in true love. Well, this is what it says deep connection and fairy tale vibes which, yes, fair minded, I want justice and balance. She'll fight nicely for what's right.

Speaker 1:

And then Cherie just said, because she knows, my motto is it's the principle yeah yeah, I'm not like, well, I'm not an active activist like some people are, like they protest and stuff, which is fine. Why are you meeting? So my oh swallow doesn't get picked up. But if it's the principle of I'm passionate about something, then you'll hear from me.

Speaker 1:

Um, aesthetic queen, I have a great eye for beauty, fashion, home decor and design. Diplomatic, but avoid it. That's really funny, because I am I, it says I'm skill blips moving over conflict. Well, I avoid it, but can avoid it altogether to keep the peace which I do, which leads into my shadow side, which is people pleaser, indecisive, which I own. That conflict, avoid it. And I play small a lot.

Speaker 1:

Um, in relationships, I crave deep soul, connect, connected love. But I need emotional safety to feel open. That is very true. This is my number one thing um, seeking a partner who's emotionally intelligent. Um, okay, mentally and emotionally, I need mental stimulation. I'm curious, philosophical and loves learning. I can spiral to overthinking, which is very true. Balancing my nervous system is key, which I'm learning, that recently, that, yes, I need to be doing that. And then, as a mom, I'm nurturing creative, emotionally intuitive. Okay, yeah, create beautiful, beautiful, harmonious home environment, but can be overwhelmed by chaos and constant demands. Yes, yes and yes. I have two boys six and three, so that tracks perfectly. Um, I need a long time to recharge. I do. Um, okay, you can go ahead. I'm gonna look up some other things, or keep looking at this stuff. If something triggers me, I'll talk about it after you're done talking about yours but I didn't have the same breakdown.

Speaker 1:

I did it but it's fine, just because I did the the good and the challenging but yours also add relationships and parenting oh, because I just put in october. Lieber woman, I should be getting the same advice, but for different signs we'll see okay um, oh, I'm the original gemini oh, what makes you?

Speaker 2:

I can't wait to hear about this it's, I'm guessing, because it's maybe, because it's the first day of gemini, because I am on the cusp.

Speaker 1:

What are you on the cusp of Taurus?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Tell the listeners what month it is for you.

Speaker 2:

May. I'm a May Gemini woman.

Speaker 1:

I'm a May.

Speaker 2:

Gemini woman Okay. So positive traits. See, this one Can I use yours? Yeah, so I can say give me the same formula, but for May Gemini one? Yeah, because mine just keeps.

Speaker 1:

Do we have the same one?

Speaker 2:

No, but just using your algorithm. Oh, because mine's not giving me the results I'm looking for. Okay, a walking contradiction in the best way. Yeah, I would agree with that, because mine's not giving me the results.

Speaker 1:

I'm looking for A walking contradiction in the best way.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would agree with that.

Speaker 1:

Okay, explain, Explain to us listeners please.

Speaker 2:

Okay, this is like nothing.

Speaker 1:

What the heck? Oh, it's nothing like yours.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

Well, let me see yours. I just don't know, Read yours while I look at it. Read yours online. I'll look at what she's giving you on yours.

Speaker 2:

This. Read yours online. I'll look at what she's giving you on yours. This is just a brief overview, but yes, it says walking contradiction. In the best way we're quick-witted, curious and full of duality. We can talk about deep existential ideas and crack a wildly inappropriate joke in the next moment. Um, ruled by mercury, the planet of communication, intellect and movement. So hold on. I gotta like reef. Oh, I have the app.

Speaker 1:

Go ahead I've had this before, like I've had like the chart looking thing I'm looking at and at some point in that paragraph it might be like another topic, but I this looks familiar to how she broke it down for you. How did I thought your curiosity is a compass. Oh, depth doesn't have to mean heaviness. Okay, so the multitudes, the duality is that because you're twins, gemini, is that where that comes from?

Speaker 2:

yeah, so one of the here, let me see we're just gonna yeah um. One of the challenging traits is like being inconsistent like with routine or like with people um. Her energy comes in bursts passionate one day over at the next. That is very true. Okay, um, and like the duality. One of the other ones was like perceived as being two-faced I think I'm really good at shape-shifting, and like fitting the environment.

Speaker 1:

Is that a?

Speaker 2:

trauma response. I think it's just like I'm not really comfortable in social situations but I can like absorb.

Speaker 1:

I think Like the worm and adapt.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I do that too, because.

Speaker 2:

I feel like I like. I'm also an empath, so I like absorb, like what's happening, so I can adjust, but I'm not really comfortable.

Speaker 1:

I like the term shape-shifting for you because I feel like you can do that.

Speaker 2:

Which I think I'm bad. I can see that coming across as two-faced, because I feel like I do have two like very different sides and I'm very like picky about when I show which ones. Okay, but I don't like that term.

Speaker 1:

I feel like gemini gemini's get a lot of heat, especially for the two-faced, like we're not fake right I think we're just really good at adapting and sometimes that might come across as like disingenuous or do you do it as a way, like for you personally, to protect yourself, as like a form of protection?

Speaker 2:

I think I just know what certain situations call for oh, okay and I'm able to rise to the occasion, yeah, but it's not always like a natural, it's not like the most comfortable thing for me to do. So it's not that I'm not being myself, but like I'm an introvert, but I know how to like socialize and be outgoing, because one of the things that I also saw was we can talk to strangers. When I first saw it, I was like, do I want to talk to strangers? No, but I absolutely can hold a conversation like and like meet people where they are and you are good at that be when I I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2:

When I see these like quick-witted, I'm like I don't feel like I am, but I do. I don't think I'm quick with like the funny stuff, but I'm quick with. All I do is talk all day. I have conversations with people and that requires like being quick and not having to like stall, to like find the words true. So I do agree with that. It also says we're sharp-tongued and mentally agile. Um, okay, so let me just break it down good traits. Break it down witty, charming, slash, sociable, creative, adaptable, energetic. Challenging traits indecisive, inconsistent, emotionally distant, easily bored and an overthinker are you?

Speaker 1:

do you think you're easily bored because of the inconsistency?

Speaker 2:

you're like oh, I get bored with this, so like, move on to the next thing it says she needs constant simulation or she'll check out mentally or literally, literally, and I do feel like that is true is that why maybe you always liked reading, because you always need to like. I don't know maybe I think reading comes with, like I read a book and then I'm on to the next book, like I'm not just stuck in one thing, I can bounce around a lot and she's a good person of reading multiple books at a time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I just uh. Yeah, because my brain is just always going in like a million different directions. Yeah, so I think so, how? How do we? Because I think both of our signs are heavy on the communication oh, that's a good observation how do we?

Speaker 2:

well, sorry guys, some nature's got into our house aka an ant, and it's pissing us off we'll not die I don't know die okay, before I get to that, because I just saw a reminder that slapped me in the face. It says reminders just for her. Let people in. That is something that I'm currently working on, okay.

Speaker 1:

I'll type that in for me. Do they mean like emotional?

Speaker 2:

It says not just with your thoughts, but with your heart.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I mean that goes a long way because you're married, just got married, and well, it'll be almost a year I know that's crazy um, okay, I just typed in reminders for october. The real woman okay, let's see what. The algorithm? I can't speak. The algorithm, yes, okay, it says I'm allowed to take up space. Which, thank you, chat gbt. My softness is not weakness. Not choosing is still a choice.

Speaker 1:

And yes, yeah saying no, is it rooted sacred? You're not responsible for everyone else's comfort, which I literally have to like. Tattoo this on my chest. Yeah, I don't have to be perfect to be lovable. It'll be on. Read that. The second one that I just said. The first one I just said I don't need permission to rest.

Speaker 1:

Peace isn't about avoiding conflict. Romanticizing my life is for me. I'm not too much which I struggle with. I don't have to earn love by being easy to love. I'm not too much which I struggle with. I don't have to earn life by being easy to love. I'm going to still grow, even when it looks like I'm standing still. And I've actually been struggling with that lately because I'm like I have this issue with setting goals, because I don't like failing. So I'm like I want to be doing something, like I want to set this goal so I can like see if I can complete it. But I'm like I don't like things. I think that's why I avoid it, but then I harden myself for not setting them. But if I wasn't so hard on myself for failing and just seeing it as like a learning thing, I think I would set more goals.

Speaker 1:

I can see that so I struggle with that, like just because I'm like I'm working on myself, of course I want it to happen overnight, but just because it seems like I'm not seeing any improvement doesn't mean that I won't surprise myself one day. In a conversation it's like oh, I didn't expect to handle it that way, so that I don't know. I'm just I don't know. Just for all the OctoBeliever women out there, I know you feel me.

Speaker 2:

We are our worst critics, yeah 1000%.

Speaker 1:

My voice in my head is so loud.

Speaker 2:

Fair.

Speaker 1:

So when I receive criticism, I take it hard because I'm like well, I've already said that to myself, but it's funny, like why are you repeating what I just said in my head?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I can see that that and it's like I've already the other side could be like nothing could bother me, because I'm like I'm already meaner to myself than xyz is. Yeah, but it's like at the same time I take it really harsh because I'm like, see, I told you even other people see that you're not doing xyz, but in reality it could just like they might not mean it that way yeah, but I also feel like a lot of times feedback, depending on who it's coming from, is meant to be like out of love and like helpful, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like at work, it's for good, it's helpful. It's helpful they see my potential and they help me with like a VRO course. Yeah, they help me with like a Vero course. Yeah, but I do want to set bigger goals for myself and accept the fact that it's okay to stumble and fall Like this is huge when people have a dream of going to the Olympics and obviously you start at day one, when you're like little, or when you decide to have that goal of being one sport of it and you need to start younger, you won't be going.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but that's like obviously they've had more hardships than good like ups on the way to that goal. And then it's like sometimes for them it's just getting to the Olympics. Like they just want to just be like I need it to the Olympics. Like some people want to win a medal, a specific medal, which is even a bigger goal. I mean, going to the Olympics is like that's a goal in and of itself and that's phenomenal, yeah, but to like have a goal, to like win a gold or another medal, it's like even more hardships along the way Because it's nothing but sacrifice until you get there.

Speaker 2:

Why don't you throw that in chat and see?

Speaker 1:

why I don't set goals, goal setting for true october libra women um, while I'm doing that, do you have issues with setting goals?

Speaker 2:

um, my, I think my using the traits of from this. I think my issue is like being indecisive and being inconsistent, okay. And being easily bored and overthink okay, I, I don't know. Goals are tough because I think I get overwhelmed and the overthinking comes in of like breaking it down into smaller steps I have heard that helps with goal setting.

Speaker 2:

For people to break it down like step by step yeah, but my issue is like I can think big picture and have an outcome of things, but it's getting started. That's difficult for me, like initiating things. I have a lot of big ideas but it's yeah, getting started is hard for me, that's fair.

Speaker 1:

Okay, it came up for me um start with, how you want to feel. How do I want to feel this year? Some examples at peace in my body, aligned my relationships, inspired in my work, grounded in motherhood, clear in my decision making, feelings first, goals second.

Speaker 1:

I feel like that's a good path and then pick three core categories max, yeah, fair, um, ideas. Self-care, mental health, parenting, family rhythms, creating your career, home, energy, environment, financial ease, personal growth, healing. You don't need a 30-point to-do list, you need focus. That feels like a gift. Soft goals and strong goals Okay, wow, this is close to the end. I'm like, oh, you know me so well. Gentle intentions, move my body in joyful ways three times a week. Strong goals Clear action base Launch my Etsy shop by october 1st. Okay, yeah, um, let's both, let both coexist feminine, feminine energy and masculine energy dancing together. I guess the action part is the masculine accountability that feels safe and trusted. Friend or coach, a beautiful planner or journal, voice memos to self. The check-in with my inner wisdom avoid harsh deadlines or shaving systems. That's so funny because of the career that I'm in, um, but it depends on like what piece of that. I think I'm fine, I don't. Oh, yes, I don't respond to punishment, I respond to grace. Yeah, okay, wow, the algorithm is deep.

Speaker 2:

Oh, she called me Cherie the other day. I was like this is a problem, Like I use you too much, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So listen to what she asked me for income with rituals, not pressure. Weekly reflection walks, sunday night, intention setting, morning affirmations and tea oh, walks, sunday night, intention setting, morning affirmations and tea oh. Monthly reset like all of this stuff I strive to do and I do, in pieces, ask if this is aligned. Affirmations for labor, goal setting I create goals that nourish, don't deplete me. I'm allowed to go at my own pace. Structure supports myself. Then it's my privacy, so I'll even lose quiet. Wow that okay. Yeah, I thought sitting down something and she knows me.

Speaker 2:

It's the algorithm what do you mean?

Speaker 1:

like how'd you know about etsy?

Speaker 2:

because it's on my phone well, maybe that was just an example but it's odd because we have an etsy shop I know, but I also feel like she uses a lot of like what you've talked about before that's not the first time either do you have an account?

Speaker 1:

no, I'm not paying for it no, it's free yeah, but also I think she might know the etsy, because I to make um pinterest pens from the episodes and I and put the transcript in there and the etsy shop is in there.

Speaker 2:

That's probably why that's what I mean. Like she uses past conversations to inform whoa girl yeah um, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So, guys, obviously you need to tell us what your signs are um the month and if you are in, because I mean this is like not saying you should like take this to like meet a bible, to like live by, but it's just like fun to like learn about yourself and some of it might apply to you, some of it may not, and if it doesn't, that's fine yeah like not saying it's like okay, I have to just have to do that.

Speaker 1:

Like, oh, a liberal woman is good at like, radio hosting. I have members that already do that, but I have podcasts. So like it's not similar. Like it's similar, but it's not exact.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that is true.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and it says like writing, which I do, but not for like a job. It's like I blog in and like a journal, so that lines up. Yeah, that's my creative outlet.

Speaker 2:

Oh, speaking of that, what are your creative outlets as a gemini, like, based off of me, or chat gpt based off of you, and then chat gpt I don't even know if reading is considered a creative outlet or not, but um, honestly, as a mom, it has shifted drastically, but in the past I would draw a lot I would write a lot and music that, and you used to paint your nails like every other day and I would paint.

Speaker 2:

I, I, I am very creative, but I don't have opportunities to access it in the same way. So now it's like mostly through music, reading and probably cooking, I would say, okay, and I will do, like adult coloring books, yes. Or I mean, like my therapist is an art therapist, so we use art techniques. My therapist is an art therapist, so we use art techniques. And like, I don't journal but I have a lot of notes on my phone, so I like write.

Speaker 1:

Like about your feelings or like whatever.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Or just like to keep things organized, yeah, in your mind and life. Yeah, lately I feel like my creativity has been making our new house, a home like just like I don't know little looks. Yeah, the decorating and just the ideas and I can totally see that like coming through yeah, because I feel like this is the first place I've really been able to do that and to like start fresh somewhere. So I'm curious to see how it pans out, especially with, like the being easily bored and like just all of my shadow traits.

Speaker 1:

And I love that they call that shadow traits, when it's like the bad trait versus like challenging. But I'm like oh, oh, that is someone's shadow side yeah like.

Speaker 2:

I've never thought of it like that yeah, and even just like talking about it or like for the post that we made. It was like oh, like I don't like it was.

Speaker 1:

I don't like it. So she's talking, sherry's talking about on the post we'll be posting later. We actually did this like on a carousel yeah to actually prep for this episode, just so we can see it like writing yeah but she was like how it was weird for her to see stuff like that for about herself yeah, which is like I'm able to take it for what it is.

Speaker 2:

It's fine, but it's weird. I don't know like people don't tell you to think about your bad traits I know.

Speaker 1:

That's why I made sure I put challenge again yeah.

Speaker 2:

So it was just interesting to see, I guess, like what the common ones are, and then to I mean, yeah, they're true, so it is what it is.

Speaker 1:

I am very indecisive. Bad, not so good, true, I mean not really getting to the philosophical side, but like I feel, like people. Some people feel that at everyone's core we're all good people. Yeah, I'll put a pin in that because I don't I disagree, oh, because there's just examples of people that do not so good things, but it's like it's how they're portrayed and like we obviously don't see what they are behind the scenes. But a lot of it also has to do with, like, so many other factors. So Tyson will put a pin in it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

But I do believe I'm working on believing that people always start out with good intentions, so what happens after that is up to them. Yeah, and the environment, but I also, yeah, we'll put it on that. But, um, everyone has good traits about them and everyone has traits that they might not love about themselves, but it's, you can't have one without the other. When it comes in the human and the having the human experience you cannot have good traits about like it makes you a whole human, having good and challenging traits about yourself yeah the yin and yang, the balance yes, because no one was essentially no one's perfect.

Speaker 1:

We all have side things about ourselves we don't love and think that people will be other people we don't love. But also the challenging traits could like be a positive, depending on what it is and like it depends. Yeah, it's all situational, like the people pleasing. Honestly it's not good, but it's like certain situations you do have to put your needs in the back burner to meet others, like in certain situations, but not living. That is like the amount of your whole life yeah so, but it's also, I feel like, at your core.

Speaker 1:

I feel like we'll always oh, that's not a thing, it's like we'll always have challenging traits, just because it's like it's not something to like cure, if that makes sense yeah, because we're not perfect personality yeah like you, I can improve, like my people pleasing and like not do it so much, but I feel like I will always be like that because that's who I, that I mean, like that's just part of who I am I think the goal is like awareness yes, and I guess just understanding yourself.

Speaker 2:

Like you, maybe you can't change it or make them go away, but you can acknowledge when you're using those behaviors.

Speaker 1:

And the overthinking hands down. I will always do that. That's just how I process everything in life.

Speaker 2:

I go inward, I overanalyze, I overthink, and that's just how I survive, survive yeah so that's not good, but I do like I like looking at the positive ones, because I was just sitting here thinking too like what happened to me, like I feel like I used to be so creative, but I'm like now I feel like it's you know, I was like oh my gosh.

Speaker 1:

I forgot we used to do musicals and that makes me so sad. I was like that's for like another episode yeah but it's like I mean you could pick up the guitar again and include sage, but it's just like I mean you don't think about it because you're like again, you're doing, we're doing mom stuff.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's survival mode and it just feels like there's less hours in the day, but I feel like I've been tapping into in other ways, like yes, like style and like hair and just we had a few episodes about that recently how you're focusing more now on like style and like you're shopping for new things and it's like you're feeling better in your body and all that stuff.

Speaker 2:

I think that's my you're expressing your creativities.

Speaker 1:

For that yeah, that's like my creative bag right now yeah, yeah, I feel like the guitar or music, whatever will always be there, just because you also grew up like doing it.

Speaker 2:

So it's like you'll never like you'll never forget how to play it it'll be there, yeah, and I'll like pick it up every once in a while, but I think that the cool thing we'll be seeing because both of us are musical like Brandon- oh, yeah, he drops beats yeah, but he also played trombone and piano and yeah, like he was fully in the marching band. Wait what? Yes, he. Well, he went to Patapsco like he went to P-TAP for art.

Speaker 1:

How did I not know this about my brother? Literally.

Speaker 2:

Like he is. Yeah, so Sage will likely be musical, so it'll be Mind blown.

Speaker 1:

Did you really not know that? I had no idea. I know he like made beats and stuff.

Speaker 2:

But that, yeah, that's all using his like.

Speaker 1:

I had no idea.

Speaker 2:

Like jazz band and like, yeah, like first chair. No, I'm texting him later, he would yeah.

Speaker 1:

I love that you met another musically inclined person.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, which sometimes people are like yeah, Brandon, I'm like, you know what I used to be too, but I'll let him have it.

Speaker 1:

It's going to be funny because either Sage is going to be all in or she's going to be like I don't want to do this, but she's already like singing and dancing and she's definitely going to be in something like that, guys out of our main immediate family our mom, our dad, me and her. She's the only one with the physically inclined I'll give daddy a little bit.

Speaker 2:

He can at least like hold a beat and he has like a tone.

Speaker 1:

Yeah which is wild because it's like there's four of us like, Like one came out with that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Or four people in the family, two kids, but yeah, yeah, that is interesting. That is interesting the fact that you met someone else, obviously not from the same family, but it's like same thing, like you didn't go to school for it, but you literally picked up a guitar and taught yourself how to play guitar and like taught yourself how to play.

Speaker 2:

I fully, for the longest time, wanted to either be like a music therapist or I I don't even know what it's called but like somebody who picks the music for movies. That was my dream job so what, my eye doctor?

Speaker 1:

yeah his daughter. Maybe this is what. Is this what she wants to be, or she's going to school for his daughter. Does that like either she wants to do that or she's going to school for that? But he's like, yeah, like you know commercials and like you know you hear songs and commercials. I'm like, oh yeah, he's like people pick that music. Yeah, I was like, wait, he's again for tv shows and he's like we'll be watching movies. She'll be like that wasn't a good music choice for that scene and I'm like I love that.

Speaker 2:

What I feel like there's probably it's not called a composer I was gonna say like a it's not a music producer, but I feel like it's something like it's in that family. I used to know the name because I would put it down as my dream job and I never like when. I always think of what my second act will be. I'm always like librarian or professor.

Speaker 1:

It's that oh my god, we've been through an episode about the second. I never thought about my second act.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, I think about it all the time because I I don't know how long I'm gonna last my first act.

Speaker 1:

Oh my god. Yeah, I gotta think about that. We're gonna. We have to do another episode about that, yeah, but yes, I was blown away when my eye doctor told me that truly I people do that.

Speaker 2:

He was like yeah, because I used to like look out the window on road trips, like listening to me, and I would like pick, like, scroll through until I found the song that fit the vibe, and just stare out the window and like put myself in a scene like I love that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I forgot what it's called, but I never heard anyone talk about that until my adoptive mother had one of those kids.

Speaker 2:

So cool and.

Speaker 1:

I was like, wait, people do that and like, of course they do, yeah, but I don't think about it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, of course you know they have pick songs for like movies, like that makes sense.

Speaker 1:

But like the stuff you don't think about, like I don't know, just I guess it's just commercials and TV shows, but it's just like oh yeah, like it's a theme song, but it's like not just that. It's like, yeah, you picked the song, but it like has to be the right song for that particular scene, yeah, and for the mood and for how you want the characters to be and how they're feeling. And even when it's like a scene where like no one's talking and it's just how you want people to feel, I don't know, the worms could pretend I'm in the industry, but I'm not where it's like not fading, but it's like no one's talking, but like you still see them, yeah, yeah. And it's like then the music fades or it's just like music's playing in the background but it's and you're like still watching the characters even on reality tv, when something shady happens and the little like backdrop music is like or like, and it's like yeah, Since you are such an avid reader, do you ever pick music to go with what you're reading?

Speaker 2:

That is why, like on my bookstagram now with you can like pick the audio and stuff, Like I try to pick a song that fits the vibe of the book, stuff like I try to pick a song that fits the vibe of the book.

Speaker 1:

so sometimes like I, so I try to like post, post and like tag brands and like also put music with it. Yeah, sometimes they won't go because of like the rights of the song versus like the brand that I'm trying to tag. They're like we can't collaborate because oh something. So I don't know if, like the author or anything, that it was like the I only tag authors in my five star reviews.

Speaker 1:

Oh so other than that I'm not tagging, yeah, I tried to like tag brands and like play music and sometimes they won't accept it because of like, like, because of music playing oh, that's weird yeah, so there's something in like the contract, whatever, but it's like I just now post my post about brandic without music yeah, well, most of them I know the ones on instagram are obviously approved to be on there yeah, but I'm thinking too that a lot of them might be like you talking anyway, so you don't need music for those, because then you wouldn't be able to hear your audio right, but it's not what it's like no audio, we're just like pictures.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, I can't remember examples from when I was like they couldn't accept it, or like like instagram wouldn't let me, someone wouldn't let me do it because of like there couldn't be no music in the post oh, that's weird.

Speaker 2:

I was like oh, okay, cool yeah, well, I guess, maybe because the brand I don't know if they would have to like pay. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but I'm also saying, like the stuff on Instagram, it's already been like approved. But it's also which I also learned we're going to spend a lot of time, but I also learned that, like you know how, like the audio clips, like the songs, they're short, like it's like the whole song, obviously, and it's like if it was over, it can only be a certain amount of seconds before you have to, before you essentially start committing like copyright infringement but now you can either add audio or add music, and when you add music you can add up to 90 seconds okay, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

I think if it's over like a certain amount of seconds, you then go into the territory of you could be potentially committing copyright infringement oh, yeah, maybe so it's like you can use this portion for this many seconds if you go to like two minutes like you can't do that because you'll be potentially it's like it turns into like a trademark copywriting but it's interesting, because what about, like, when artists use their own songs in their posts?

Speaker 2:

I'm thinking about justin bieber, whose album recently dropped. I know, but it's the same rules for them I don't know, but I do.

Speaker 1:

I know the ones that are on instagram, like the ones that are up and approved and uploaded. I think they're only that long because of that but it's the whole song.

Speaker 2:

You can pick what 90 seconds of the song. Yeah, but yeah, yeah. But I'm saying yeah, but it's not like I think they do put the whole song, but you can choose.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, yeah, a whole like three minutes, all yeah, so it's not like I think they do put the whole song in, but you can choose. Yeah, yeah, like a whole three-minute song, yeah, so they give that, so you can pick portions of it. But I think if it's after, if you played the whole entire song, if that was allowed, it wouldn't be allowed because you'd then get into the land of copyright infringement.

Speaker 2:

Nobody is looking at a post for longer than even 10 seconds at this point.

Speaker 1:

But also maybe artists post things about themselves singing their whole song because of that role and also because it's their song. Yeah, I don't know how that works, but also that doesn't set too, because it's like not all artists own their song, own the rest of their song.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Even if they're currently singing it. That's a good one thing, guys, but that's interesting too though. Yeah that's what I'm saying, guys, but that's interesting too, though. Yeah, um, I never wanted to do that when I wanted to be an attorney, but that stuff is always interesting, like trademark, and I think stuff is always interesting yeah because, it's like you hear, like after the past, like michael drax and her friends, it's like, oh well, we just sold the rights to their songs to so-and-so.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. We're like, yeah, or we just sold the rights like their estate or something. I was like, wait, you assume that it's their song. So you're like, okay, they own it. Well, like they don't. Really Some of them don't. Some of them do, yeah, but, guys, it's a full day. I have an appointment in two minutes and then we're going to record again, go to the pool, have lunch and yeah. So, guys, I'm so happy you stuck with us throughout this whole time I said like you always did.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but thanks for being there and please share your signs with us.

Speaker 2:

We're like, if anything, it's just interesting and fun I'm on a silent mission to get one of each sign on the podcast oh my god. So we have 10 more to go sarah will be on for cancer, so we need nine more.

Speaker 1:

Our friend Sarah, come forth. She's not an expert. She's more of an expert than we are.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she's an armchair expert. There you go, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay, guys.

Speaker 2:

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